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Re: WG last call for IPv4 MD5



Burt Kaliski <burt@rsa.com>

At 1:31 PM 2/27/95, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>"William Allen Simpson" says:
>> According to reports from the PSRG meeting (two weeks ago), Kalisky says
>> we should first hash the text without a key, then hash the {hash,key}.
>> This gives the key greater strength in the final hash.
>>
>> If he had been designing MD5 for keying, he would have added the key in
>> at each step of the block hashing.
>>
>> (I got this from Schiller over the phone, so any mistake in reporting is
>> entirely mine, as this is a third hand report.)
>>
>> Any objections?
>
>Yes! I object to giving Burt credit for Ron Rivest's hash function, and
>I object to the misspelling of his last name!
>
>Other than that, no objections; if the commentary is true I'm not
>about to argue with Kaliski, although frankly having glanced at it I'm
>not sure why MD5(MD5(text),key) would be stronger than MD5(text+key)
>given MD5's way of folding in new text into a hash. It would be nice
>to get some comments straight from the horse's mouth, as it
>were. Anyone remember Burt Kaliski's email address?
>
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