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Re: 40bit DES?



  Didn't we go through this about 6 weeks ago? The tone is much more
civil now (no one is being called a whore-- yet) but the content
hasn't changed.

  Anybody for a discussion of negotiating the anti-replay window size?

  Dan.

"someone" wrote:
> Roy Pereira writes:
> > blah, blah, blah..... Regardless of what your opinion is, in the real
> > world we are forced with export issues.  Sure 40-bit DES isn't secure,
> > but it sure is a lot better than no encryption or not having any sales?
> 
> Huh?
> 
> 40 bit DES *is* having no encryption. Its got only one legitimate
> function -- it will slow your computer down. What's the point?
> 
> Not having any sales is the vendor's problem, not the customer's.  The
> choice is not "no encryption or 40 bit DES". It is "no encryption or
> buy from a company like SSH Communcations Security Oy". The mere fact
> that VENDORS are harmed by this doesn't harm CUSTOMERS. End users get
> to buy from whom they want.
> 
> > Its time to move from the theoretical to the practical.  I can dream of
> > a day when we all live together in harmony with world peace, but reality
> > dictates something else, doesn't it?
> 
> Reality is that customers get to buy from overseas vendors. I'm sorry
> if this hurts you as a U.S. vendor. Go and get your lobbyist
> working. This doesn't inconvenience me as a user. Just because the NSA 
> is pushing job exports doesn't mean you can't go and push for crypto
> exports.
> 
> Perry