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Re: Hybrid Authentication and Remote Access



> On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:19:50 -0700, Scott G. Kelly wrote:
> 
> >I wasn't planning on commenting on this until I'd had a bit more time to
> >review it, but so long as you're bringing it up, I will voice one
> >criticism of the hybrid-auth draft: ISAKMP Notify messages are ONE-WAY.
> >You are using them for a 2-way exchange. This is a hack. 
> 
> I agree that it is a hack, not because of the one-way nature of the
> notify message, but because the hybrid mode uses them to transfer
> specific information with specific format, and in a perfect protocol
> it should deserve a payload type of it's own.
> 
> > Read the other drafts.
> 
> I read them. From where do you think that I got the idea of using the
> notify payload for challenge response? (read for example
> ISAKMP/XAUTH).
> 
> > Hacking your enhancements into the protocol is ridiculous and
> >unjustified, given that the working group is entering another round in
> >which such modifications may be properly implemented if appropriate.
> 
> In general I agree with you. The problem is that while the future of
> ISAKMP is the full public key modes, in the present there are large
> installation bases of challenge/response tokens. Thus waiting for the
> next phase of the ipsec to add more notification types to is missing
> the point of providing a solution in the near future.
Just want to add my 2 cents here. I want to make sure that whatever the
solution is adopted, it is not restricted to challenge/response algorithms
only and can support more sophisticated schemes like biometrics.

PatC
> 
> >
> >Aside from that criticism, I agree that there is a need for such a
> >mechanism, and that this proposal meets that need in one way, and Roy's
> >isakmp-xauth proposal meets it in others. It's certainly worthy of
> >continued discussion.
> >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Moshe Litvin




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