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Re: Dangling SA Summary



On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:21:51 EDT you wrote
> 
> The purpose of requiring no dangling phase 2 SAs is minimize the window of
> unauthorized use of a system. With dangling phase 2 SAs, the maximum window
> size is the sum of the phase 1 SA lifetime plus the phase 2 SA lifetime.
> Without dangling phase 2 SAs, the maximum window size is the phase 1 SA
> lifetime.

This is large club used to kill a small ant. The window only happens when
you 1) are using certs; and, 2) have a case where the certificate expires 
while IPSec SAs exist. The CRL example is not convincing because there is
no way to notice the second a cert has been revoked unless you spend 100%
of your time doing LDAP queries for active sessions. That's not realistic
and as Brian Korver noted yesterday this window approximates roundoff
error for all the other windows.

So the way to "fix" this (if you feel that this window is more than a
roundoff error and needs to be closed) is to note the expiry of the 
certificate used to authenticate the IKE SA and use it to constrain IPSec 
SAs.

This leaves one free to have dangling SAs for the 99.976% of the time that
there is no window.

  Dan.



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