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Re: FBI secret police




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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:51:02 -0500
To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>, CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM,
        cryptography@c2.net, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From: Matthew Lyle <matt@nova.org>
Subject: Re: FBI secret police

At 5:58 PM -0500 11/18/99, Robert Hettinga wrote:
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>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:37:46 -0500
>From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
>To: raven@ietf.org
>CC: ietf-ppp@merit.edu, ipsec@lists.tislabs.com
>Subject: FBI secret police
>Sender: owner-ipsec@lists.tislabs.com
>
>As I prefer to give specific examples from life, rather than speculation,
>here's a long post that might give a hint as to why we do not trust our
>government agencies.
>
>William Allen Simpson wrote:
> > And just to top it off, I've been unable to get my own personal
> > FBI records in 6 years.  The law states they have 20 days.  Their
> > most recent excuse says they have to search over a million records.
> >
>Wonder of wonders, I just received a portion of my FBI Freedom of
>Information records yesterday.  Apparently, their very existance was
>classified "SECRET", by "G-3", and was supposed to be "declassified on:
>OADR".  Any idea what that means?
>

OADR is the acronym for "Originating Agency's Determination Required".


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Matthew Lyle
matt@nova.org
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603-388-8054 Fax (yes, 603)
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