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FBI secret police FAQ#1
This has gotten forwarded to many groups, and I have been overwhelmed
by the response. Here are the answers to several of the most frequently
asked questions, so that I don't have to answer so many private messages.
1) Why ask for the FBI records?
2) Why were the records kept secret?
3) How to ask for FOIA records?
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At the Columbus IETF meeting in March 1993, a couple of PPP working group
members told me that the FBI had come and questioned them for a "treason"
investigation. My own parents had been contacted (the agent left a card).
According to neighbors, my residence had been staked out for weeks. As
a consultant, I travel a lot, so they were disappointed.
Also, the IRS started a 7 (now 8) year investigation of my tax records,
citing a criminal investigation. This is still ongoing today -- it
takes years to work through the courts. I have "substantially
prevailed" on every issue in these cases.
Through the grapevine, John Gilmore (whom I had not yet met) told
Phil Karn that I ought to request my records through the Freedom of
Information and Privacy Acts. I requested the records from both the
FBI and IRS. After several years of repeated requests, and a refusal
to provide those records under Discovery during the court cases, the
IRS gave me some of my records last June, and the FBI apparently was
examining their records at about the same time (May). In both cases,
they only filled part of the requests.
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The folder title page says:
Subject: William Allen Simpson
File: Classified File Number
The FBI cover sheets read as follows (special typed paragraph):
"The enclosed documents responsive to your request are exempt from
disclosure in their entirety pursuant to the Privacy Act, Title 5,
United States Code, Section 552(a), subsection (j)(2). However,
these records have been processed pursuant to the Freedom of
Information Act, Title 5, United States Code, Section 552, thereby
affording you the greatest degree of access authorized by both laws."
subsection (j)(2) reads:
"material reporting investigative efforts pertaining to the
enforcement of criminal law including efforts to prevent, control,
or reduce crime or apprehend criminals;"
As explained by others:
G-3: Assuming a .mil-like hierarchy, G3 would be Operations -- G1 is
Personnel and Admin, G2 is Intel and Security, G4 is Logistics.
OADR: Originating Agency's Determination Required, which means the
FBI didn't generate that information, some other agency did, and
they're the ones who get to make classification determinations
regarding it.
I understand these indications to mean that the various agencies are
hiding behind one another, probably requested by the "security" part
of an organization of the "operations" part, the very source of the
file is secret -- and that they interpret the law to mean that this
material is forever secret, by simply claiming that this is an
enforcement of criminal law, even though no criminal acts were
ever discovered.
I've started to scan in the documents. You can view the first two
pages that they've given me (clearly not the real first two pages,
as these pages reference earlier dates), at the "Proceedings of the
Institute for Obscure Studies": http://potifos.com/was/
(Hopefully, this will not get my freindly lawyer in too much trouble.)
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The initial roadblocks in submitting a FOIPA request turned out to be
(1) finding where to submit it, and (2) giving them lots of personal
identification. They want it to be notarized, include a social security
number, and be accompanied by a copy of a photographic identification,
such as driver's licence. AFAIK, none of this is required by the statute,
but both FBI and IRS kept returning my requests.
I laboriously found the FBI offices that I used, in the local phone
books, and from the rejection letters. Glen L. Roberts, editor of
Full Disclosure, has a good list on-line. I wish I'd known about it
when I started: http://www.glr.com/fbiform.txt
The FOIPA statute requires that they answer within 20 days. In my case,
each time a year or so had gone by, they sent me a letter asking whether
I still wanted the information.
Here's what my FBI request looked like. Replace with your information.
Don't forget to get each copy notarized as you send them out....
Freedom of Information and Privacy Act Request
Director, Attention FOIPA
FBI Headquarters
J Edgar Hoover Bldg
9th St & Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington DC 20535
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Attention FOIPA
P O Box 2118
Detroit MI 48231
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Attention FOIPA
200 E Liberty
Ann Arbor MI 48104
313-995-1310
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Attention FOIPA
P O Box 14195
Lansing MI 48901
517-487-1850
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Attention FOIPA
2 Northfield Plaza
Troy MI
Pursuant to the provisions of the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts,
5 USC 552, I am requesting copies of all information maintained by this
agency in the past 38 years that pertain to myself as described below:
Full Name: William Allen Simpson
Also Known As: Bill Simpson
Current Address: ---
Social Security No.: ---
Date and Place of Birth: ---
Other pertinent locations:
Ann Arbor, Michigan
East Lansing, Michigan
Lansing, Michigan
Okemos, Michigan
Waterford, Michigan
Date:____________ Signature:_______________________________________________
Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of ________________________,
of the year ____________.
Signature of Notary: ________________________________________________________
My commission expires: ____________
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