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Re: Simplifying IKE (was RE: Reliable delete notifies)



On 13 Oct 00, at 2:47, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

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> On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:46:27AM +0400, Valery Smyslov wrote:
> > On 12 Oct 00, at 19:06, Henry Spencer wrote:
> > > On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Mark Baugher wrote:
> > > > >Realistically, anyone designing a new key-management protocol would have
> > > > >to be out of his mind to base it on ISAKMP. 
> > > > 
> > > > Why?
> > > 
> > > Because it's grossly complex, badly designed, and poorly documented.
> > > It doesn't do enough for you to be worth the trouble.
> > 
> > Please, suggest an alternative.
> 
> Photuris.  See OpenBSD.org

I know it well and I like it (especially its true stateless cookies). 
However, it is not a real alternative to ISAKMP. It may be considered 
as an alternative to IKE (as an "instantiation" of ISAKMP), but not 
to ISAKMP itself. Even comparing to IKE, Photuris (despite some 
really good things that it has), IMHO, suffers from the lack of 
extensibility and flexibility. Photuris demonstrates a good solid 
design, but any attempt to add something substantially different to 
the protocol may  lead to its collapse. 

Any more suggestions (please, do not mention SKIP or HIP)?

Regards,
Valery Smyslov.

> > >                                                           Henry Spencer
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Valery Smyslov.
> 
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