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Re: [seamoby] BOF: IP over Bluetooth for 50th Meeting of IETF.

Kulwinder,

There is an issue here with the closed, proprietary nature of the Bluetooth
SIG. Since information on what the SIG is doing is not available until
it is complete, there is nothing to prevent the SIG from doing something
that would invalidate the work that IETF puts into desiging a better
IP over Bluetooth.

Is there any possibility of gaining assurance from the SIG that they
won't do something like this?

		jak


 >
 >Myself and Ron Akers have requested an IP over Bluetooth BOF for the 50th
 >Meeting of the IETF in Minneapolis.  The BOF will discuss the creation of a
 >IETF Working Group to investigate the most open and efficient way to place
 >IP over the Bluetooth Host Controller.
 >
 >Current work in this area within the Bluetooth SIG concentrates on defining
 >IP over a set of other lower-layer stacks. Currently there are two options
 >defined by the Bluetoth SIG:
 >
 > Option 1: IP/PPP/RFCOM/L2CAP/Host Controller
 >
 > Option 2: IP/PAN Profile/L2CAP/Host Controller
 > 	   (where the PAN Profile is a Bluetooth SIG work in progress)
 > 
 >
 >We are proposing that the IETF form a WG to define a more efficient way of
 >running IP over Bluetooth. In particular, IP would run
 > over an IETF protocol over the Host Controller without L2CAP.  This option
 >may be adopted by the Bluetooth SIG at a later date as a Profile.  Since all
 >Bluetooth SIG Profiles are optional, a customer may choose any combination
 >of Profiles in a final product.  Further, since Bluetooth Working Groups
 >have it in their mandate to adopt protocols from other standards making
 >bodies such as the IETF, there exists a clear path for IETF work to be
 >adopted by the Bluetooth SIG.
 > 
 >Whereas the last BOF was informational only and organized by the Bluetooth
 >SIG itself, the objective of this BOF will be to foster innovation, and
 >speed progress by placing IP related protocol development wihin the IETF and
 >Bluetooth-specific protocol development
 > within the Bluetooth SIG, by developing an IP over Bluetooth IETF Working
 >Group.
 > 
 >This effort will define its own way of running IP over Bluetooth, by
 >carefully selecting a set of Bluetooth protocols (freely available from
 >published specifications at
 >http://www.bluetooth.com/developer/specification/specification.asp) on which
 >to build IP.
 >
 >Please join myself, Kulwinder Atwal, and Ron Akers on the pre-BOF mailing
 >list:
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 >Kulwinder Atwal
 >Bluetooth Design
 >Zucotto Wireless Inc.
 >kulwinder.atwal@zucotto.com
 >
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