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RE: IKE must have no Heirs



That's an interesting idea.  I think one of the reasons for putting IKE in
user space might have been because it is so much more complicated than the
ESP/AH - it's much safer to keep it out of the kernel!

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Smith at Secure Computing
> [mailto:rick_smith@securecomputing.com]
> Sent: 07 August 2001 19:49
> To: Alex Alten; Kory Hamzeh; Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> Cc: 'mcnelson@mindspring.com'; ipsec@lists.tislabs.com
> Subject: Re: IKE must have no Heirs
> 
> 
> At 02:28 AM 8/7/2001, Alex Alten wrote:
> 
> >I second the motion. And also propose no port number (i.e. do the new
> >one over raw IP).
> 
> There is a benefit to this approach if, in some future 
> universe, we ever 
> try to implement a protocol stack using least privilege to maximize 
> security assurance. It gives us an easy way of putting all 
> parts of IPsec 
> within the same trust boundary and of keeping it better 
> separated from 
> other protocol processing.
> 
> Otherwise you are stuck with a uniform level of trust for all of the 
> software in the protocol stack, crypto and non-crypto, including the 
> mechanism that binds ports to processes. I know, this isn't a 
> problem today 
> because protocol stacks run in kernel mode and therefore we 
> (have no other 
> choice but to) "trust" the entire protocol stack.
> 
> It is, of course, feasible to ignore the issues of 
> incremental trust and/or 
> build additional mechanisms to bring together what is built 
> asunder. But it 
> seems cleaner, design-wise, to keep the key management close 
> to the code 
> that actually uses the resulting keys.
> 
> Rick.
> smith@securecomputing.com
> 


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