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RE: XKMS and NIH RE: Simplifying IKE



At 6:54 AM -0700 8/17/01, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
>  The only difference between
>the W3C process and IETF process is that in W3C process Jeff and Marcus
>have effective veto power on security grounds for any protocol. In W3C
>Tim Berners-Lee has veto power but he is not a security specialist.

This is completely wrong on many counts.
- Jeff and Marcus only have "veto power" for WG items moving to IETF last call.
- During IESG review, every IESG member has partial veto power (you 
need more than one to "veto" a draft).
- IETF WG chairs have pretty significant "veto power", more than area 
directors do early in the process.
- In the W3C, there are many people (in particular, WG chairs) who 
have effective veto power throughout the process.

Playing "my standards body is better than your standards body" is a 
boring game, particularly when the people you are playing it with 
don't know the facts.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium


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