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RE: IPSec still too slow?




Joel are you willing to post all the raw test results to the IPSEC
mailing list?  It's really hard to understand what the numbers really
mean in your article.  I for one wouldn't mind if you change vendor/product
names to something like vendor A/product X (although some indication of
processor speed would help here).

What I'm looking for is raw throughput (various packet sizes), latency (SA 
setup costs), error rates (%dropped packets, lost fragments), timing delays.

BTW, did you test with various legacy protocol/apps?  For example did anything
break if they didn't get the expected TCP segement handed to them in the app
layer?

- Alex


At 05:20 PM 10/5/2001 -0700, Joel M Snyder wrote:
>Alex has misinterpreted what I wrote.  The performance drop I 
>saw was exclusively with the Microsoft implementation.  I only
>brought that statistic out because they have such incredibly good
>performance (with $90 Intel NICs) with small numbers of SAs.  
>
>I did not test all the products in that review with hundreds of
>SAs, but I have tested Cisco, Nokia, and Netscreen and seen
>negligible performance degradation as the size of the SPD/SAD
>tables get large.  In this case, I think that we're seeing an
>implementation issue with the card---it's just not designed to handle
>hundreds of SAs (on the other hand, it costs less than $100, so 
>it's really an incredible solution for some branch office environments).
>
>In general, IPSEC performance in labs looks great because we don't
>cause fragmentation.  When fragmentation rears its ugly head, performance
>can go to hell (or even cause connectivity failure) very quickly. Or not,
>depending on the design of your application.  Encryption performance is
>generally not the problem.  
>
>I do get pissed off at people who throw around latency claims, though.
>One major firewall vendor (who should remain nameless) claims that one
>of the big advantages of co-locating the IPSEC and firewall function
>inside of the same box is that two boxes add too much latency.  In the
>lab, even with the slowest and stupidest of VPN products, I rarely see
>more than 1ms latency---completely indistinguishable across the general
>purpose Internet.
>
>http://www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2001/1001rev.html
>
>jms
>
>
>Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719
>Phone: +1 520 324 0494 x101 (v) +1 520 324 0495 (FAX)  
>jms@Opus1.COM    http://www.opus1.com/jms    Opus One
>
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Alex Alten
Alten@Home.Com

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