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RE: Status of ID: IPsec Flow Monitoring MIB
Can't agree more.
The mailing list should only be used for technical discussion.
unfortunately, people takes his personality into the discussion,
poisoning both the list and his company.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Koning [mailto:ni1d@arrl.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:19 PM
To: leot@cisco.com
Cc: john.shriver@intel.com; rks@cisco.com; ipsec@lists.tislabs.com
Subject: Re: Status of ID: IPsec Flow Monitoring MIB
>>>>>"Leo" == Leo Temoshenko <leot@cisco.com> writes:
Leo> I believe all of points were addressed by rks in his response to
Leo> Tim Jenkins (timestamp Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:21:11 -0800). His
Leo> responses were great and right-on-the-money.
Leo> I would like to add several comments...
Leo> 1) Your note is very interesting and touching. It covers all
Leo> the points that one learns in an "how to influence others" class
Leo> - fear, justification, authorization advice and ends with
Leo> sympathy. Very nice.
I've been watching this argument for a while now.
Frankly, a lot of it has been at a level that prompts me to reach for
the Delete key right away. I haven't been able to find much substance
in between all the childish remarks, unfortunately. In particular,
I've seen a lot of messages that are not even close to the level of
maturity and technical substance one would expect to see from people
who claim to represent Cisco.
It may help feed your own sense of self-importance to write comments
such as the one quoted above, but it does not help at all in advancing
your argument to a disinterested observer. If you have a desire to
influence the direction of the group, maybe you should have a
conversation with some of your more senior colleagues on what to do
and what not to do in IETF WG interactions.
paul
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