> > The people who want IPSEC are often different from the people > > performing NAT attacks on them. > > I don't understand your point. For IPsec to work, both parties have to > be willing and interested. If one of those parties puts up a NAT, they > obvoiusly aren't interested. You make the bizare assumption that people have control over their environments. I have much more control over the protocols I use than the network I have access to. Phill
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