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Re: Don't remove TS from IKEv2



> The point is that SOI should negotiate keys and SAs, but since each
> endpoint already has a policy that it must apply on every packet
> anyway, we don't need key management also to give policy
> refinements.

As I've explained repeatedly, this is true only when there is
centrally provisioned policy.

> Additionally, no existing or proposed traffic
> selector notation can describe all commonly used services.

That's setting a rather high bar, isn't it?  

The use of SA's at transport-connection granularity in conjunction
with looser-grained policy will work for a very large proportion of
services, and works today in Sun's implementation.

					- Bill