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Re: Two AES encryption modes?



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>>>>> "VPNC" == VPNC  <Paul> writes:
    VPNC> At 8:08 AM -0400 7/24/02, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
    >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
    >> directories.
    >> This draft is a work item of the IP Security Protocol Working Group 
    >> of the IETF.
    >> 
    >> Title		: Using AES Counter Mode With IPsec ESP
    >> Author(s)	: R. Housley
    >> Filename	: draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ctr-00.txt
    >> Pages		: 12
    >> Date		: 23-Jul-02

    VPNC> There are technical reasons why this WG might or might not want to 
    VPNC> have more than one AES encryption modes. I would like to bring up a 
    VPNC> non-technical reason why we wouldn't: interoperability.

    VPNC> System A is marketed as doing AES. System B is marketed as doing AES. 
    VPNC> They won't interoperate unless they both do the same modes. Yes, we 
    VPNC> could demand that the users understand that "AES CBC" and "AES 
    VPNC> Counter" are different, and that when they hear "AES" they need to 
    VPNC> ask "which of the two AES modes do you mean"? That is a wholly 
    VPNC> unrealistic demand.

  One solution is to make up two new names for them, neither of which is "AES".
  This is a marketing solution to a marketing problem.

    VPNC> Without a really, really strong security justification, the loss of 
    VPNC> understandable interoperability that comes with two 
    VPNC> different-but-similarly-named algorithms is not worth it.

  Fix the names.

  I propose "Ted" and "Barbara" as the new working names. They can fight over
which one is more secure.

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