draft-ietf-ipsec-doi-tc-mib-07.txt and friends

[Barbara Fraser <byfraser@cisco.com>]

Hi John,

Ted and I have been, once again, digging back into the status of 5 of the
MIB documents and would like to see us once and for all get these
documents put to bed.  We've seen and read the thread concerning
draft-ietf-ipsec-doi-tc-mib-07.txt. Everything seems to have come to a
halt after Mike Heard posted his summary MIB doctor comments on April 28.
This document is referenced in the an IPSP document so we need to somehow
resolve the issues surrounding it,  which is why there is such a
wide distribution on this message.  First question is, are you
willing to continue to work on this document as the editor? Second, it
seems there has been some difference of opinion between you and Mike. One
comment made was that some of the difficulties arose from this document
being looked at in isolation of the other related documents. This brings
me to a question. Every time Ted and I have asked if anyone is
implementing these MIBs, there has been total silence leading us to
believe nobody is implementing them. Paul Hoffman has kindly resubmitted
draft-ietf-ipsec-ike-monitor-mib-04.txt, 
draft-ietf-ipsec-isakmp-di-mon-mib-05.txt, and
draft-ietf-ipsec-monitor-mib-06.txt for us in the new format, and if he,
or someone else is willing to take them on, we could continue to progress
all of them.  If that's what folks want to do. On the other hand, we
could also choose to progress only the document that Hilary's group needs
and drop the other three due to lack of interest/implementation. 
It's also fair to remind folks that these are all IKEv1 MIB docs.

All this boils down to the following:
1. Are you willing to continue to edit
draft-ietf-ipsec-doi-tc-mib-07.txt?
2. We need to come to agreement on what changes are needed, that is we
must address the MIB doctor comments.
3. Are we going to continue to support
draft-ietf-ipsec-ike-monitor-mib-04.txt, 
draft-ietf-ipsec-isakmp-di-mon-mib-05.txt, and
draft-ietf-ipsec-monitor-mib-06.txt? If so, who's willing to take on the
document editor job? And, more importantly, how do we decide what changes
are needed to them.

I feel like we're living in Ground Day with these MIB docs. We keep
living the same thing over and over. Let's please get to the end 
:-)

thanks,
Barb and Ted