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Re: Comments on CRACK





Vipul Gupta wrote:

> > In message <3815F49E.BFABF7C9@cisco.com>, Roy Pereira writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Let me ask everyone who is interested;  How do we support existing
> > > legacy user authentication within IKE without using a PKI ?
> >
> > With a protocol that lets the customer download an encrypted private key/
> > certificate pair from a server, followed by ordinary IKE.
> >
> >               --Steve Bellovin
> >
>
>   A perfect lead-in for what I've been thinking about for some time
>   now :-)
>
>   How about using an HTML forms based interaction over HTTPS between
>   a webserver and a user to accomplish what you state.
>
>            Internet                           Intranet
>
>                                |
>                                |          +--> Legacy Auth server
>            SSL/TLS protected   |         /
>      user =================== HTTPS <---+
>                               server
>                                |
>                                |
>
>    This interaction can easily accomodate legacy user auth mechanisms
>    like SecureID, DES Gold, OTP, CHAP because the HTTPS server has access
>    to authentication tokens in the clear. Even multiple rounds don't
>    pose a problem. After the Auth server responds with "OK", the
>    HTTP server can squirt out a special MIME datatype and the browser
>    could be set up to automatically invoke the IKE daemon (or companion
>    software) to handle that MIME type. The HTTPS may need to coordinate
>    with the IPSec gateway on the Intranet side.
>
>    This could be a reasonable solution for the road warrior VPN scenario.
>    I've heard Paul Hoffman use the term "user authentication in Phase 0.5"
>    for an approach like this (in contrast to Hybrid's Phase 1.5).
>
>    (Maybe now's a good time to go look for that fire extingusher :-)).
>
>    vipul
>
>
>

This is one neat solution and works OK with browser ( user intervention is
required ). What about a router which gets dynamic IP address from the
ISP and needs to authenticate itself to the remote access router ( without
user intervention )?

Srini




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