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Re: Heartbeats Straw Poll
We must agree to disagree then. it's far from 'overhead'. Hwo would YOU feel
if you got charged for something that you didn't do?
jan
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Michael Richardson wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vilhuber <vilhuber@cisco.com> writes:
> Jan> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Michael Richardson wrote:
> >> In my opinion, IPsec heartbeats should just be ICMP ping requests,
> >> and the fact that any traffic is received is the "response".
>
> Jan> But remember that there are customers that want to bill based on
> Jan> traffic. Having a heartbeat in the form of a ping through the SA
>
> Red-herring. That is called "Overhead".
>
> a) Does the customer pay for the ESP and IP outer frames? If so, then
> the cost of the ICMP ping will never show.
>
> b) Does the customer pay for IKE frames? If so, then the cost of the ICMP
> will never show.
>
> c) If the customer still has a problem, then turn off heart beats for that
> SA, and charge them extra for an "AlwaysOn" connection.
>
> Jan> artificially drives up the packet/bytes counts. Now all of a sudden
> Jan> you have to put more logic in to potentially not count these pings,
> Jan> but you probably do want to count pings that the customer sends.
>
> Jan> It's not QUITE as simple as merely sending pings...
>
> I disagree. It is.
>
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