Re: Meta-comment: use of "red" / "black" terminology...

[Jonathan Stone <jonathan@dsg.stanford.edu>]

>VPNs are not the genesis of the terminology. The terms arose in the 
>DoD context 50 years ago, well before there was a notion of VPNs.

I'm well aware of that.  But it's a non-sequitur to my response to and
Ted's second point, which I can only assume you missed:

> [...] the use
> of "red" and "black" lingo has also been accompanied by diagrams that
> only address the use of IPsec in tunnel mode and assume the 
> VPN/Securitygateway model.