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Re: ESP revisions straw poll
Date: Wed, 21 May 97 04:50:24 GMT
From: "William Allen Simpson" <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
> > From: Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com>
> > So, let's assume the end of this week is the closing date, thus
> > having about a two-week interval for votes. Also, private votes count too.
> > I criticized Ran privately for this practice in the past, and now I
> > understand his rationale, i.e., I have received a few votes in favor of
> > encryptionless ESP that were not made public because of fear of getting
> > pilloried on this list. It's unfortunate that we have a deserved
> > reputation for such animosity on this list.
> >
>
> Private "votes" do _NOT_ count. Ever. They are not part of the
> record. When the "process" is examined, in the IESG or in court,
> the private messages will be meaningless.
>
Why don't private votes count? They do in public elections.
What does examination of any IETF process in court have to do
with anything?
I don't see why private messages cannot be a matter of record.
Since you mentioned the court system, private correspondence
is often presented as evidence. You need look only as far as
McVeigh and Kaczynski.
> You want to come to the dance, you have to pay the piper. And that
> means public position statements are publicly rebutted,
> fragile egos not-with-standing.
>
Sounds a bit like a fraternity.
-dpg
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