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Re: "Pillage first, then burn" - Attila the Hun
"Press release first, then develop" - (Name withheld by request)
Again, I hesitate to answer this.
I seem to see that there are people that again claim that their intentions
and experiments are more valuable than product experience in a compression
with encryption product. The NSC product won the Best of Show at INTEROP
'95. It had compression then, and it has it now.
On Thu, Mar 20, 1997 7:32 PM, Steve Sneddon <mailto:sned@cisco.com> wrote:
> Email to the IPSec list has its place, and formal presentations have
their
> place, but I believe you (HiFn) and I (Cisco) need to host an informal
> BOF-like discussion in Memphis around this topic in the hope that it can
> help move opinion forward. Maybe Tuesday evening would work.
In my heart, I know that cisco -is- the pre-eminent vendor of eveything
important and we are not. NSC does have 2+ years of experience with
implementing, deploying and real traffic with products that have packet
level compression and encryption. This is actual experience, not
conjecture. This is also true from the legal, commercial as well as the
technical areas.
I find that Cisco claiming the right to lead the discussions and host such
a BOF to be incredulous.
> This is the result of significant customer
> backlash to lack of compression in our now-shipping but non-standard
> encryption offering.
> In fact, Cisco does not plan to
> release an IPSec implementation until there is a plan
I personally find this kind of grandstanding abhorrent. To claim the high
ground in the compression discussion because their customers see this as
cisco problem is (in my mind) the same kind of paper tiger announcements
that their encryption program did 2 years ago when several vendors were
trying to make a living with existing products built on forethough, cisco
was trying to freeze the market with press releases so they could play
catch up.
I will (again) be happy to supply real results in providing a combined
compressed, replay prevented, authentic, integrity and privacy transform
(as I did to the IPSEC working group in 1994 in San Jose).
jim
http://www.network.com/~hughes
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