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At 4:05 PM +0000 7/27/99, Mike Kaulbars wrote:
>Sorry about a non-event posting, but the nature of the previous
>posting requires this cautionary follow-up....
>> Have a look at this.
>But note the following....
>> Dear all, I got this earlier, and then got this extremely
>interesting reply, which you'll find below. It was forwarded to a
>large list, so I feel okay sharing it with you all. Basically it is a
>caution re the Hunger Site.
>> I'm afraid I find this EXTREMELY FISHY, quite alarming, in fact; so
>I'm not sending it on to anyone. Any number of reasons; here are
>> 1.There are HUGE problems associated with "food aid" in just about
>any form, as Oxfam or any of the other reputable "international
>cooperation" agencies can explain. Inappropriate or even contaminated
>food, "dumping" which undercuts local farmers, siphoning off of
>donated food for sale by corrupt individuals, etc In this case, even
>in the unlikely event that some "real food" does get distributed, the
>pertinent questions are - what? where? how much? to whom? Under what
>conditions? Etc. You just don't fool around with this kind of thing.
>> 2. This would seem to be a great way for whoever (corporate
>sponsors, etc) to get e-mail addresses and/or other information for
>their own purposes - and to collect a whole list of well-intentioned
>but somewhat gullible people (sorry to be so blunt, but since I'm
>gullible myself in many contexts I know what I'm talking about!)
>> 3. Any project where "no one's been able to find out who's behind
>it" is suspicious. As my father put it in a letter once to an
>anonymous "English Only" (anti-French and probably racist anti-
>immigrant) group, "Long experience has taught me to distrust
>organizations which, when appealing for support, do not give the
>names of their officers." Much worse an appeal which does not even
>give the names of the sponsoring organizations!
>> Incidentally, you say there are "pharmaceutical companies"
>among the sponsors, but you don't say which ones, or how you know
>they are involved (since the appeal as it was passed on says nothing
>about that). I'd be very interested to know whatever details. I'm
>sure you are aware that several of the largest
>pharmaceutical/chemical companies are heavily into "bio-engineering"
>of genetically engineered (GE or GM) foods, and are pushing that
>technology under various labels (eg. "novel foods") and promoting the
>concept to the public with sophisticated PR propaganda about
>> f eeding the hungry hordes. (For more information on this stuff,
>see the following websites: Campaign for Food Safety
><www.purefood.org> and Rural Advancement Foundation International -
>> 4. Scams like this (and for all of the above reasons, it IS a scam)
>serve to distract people's attention from the true issues around food
>and hunger and thus prevent a critical understanding and the kind of
>effective action which can grow from that. This one provides a "feel-
>good" guilt-assuaging pill in the form of a "virtual" promise based
>on implicit misrepresentation of the facts about the causes of hunger
>and how it might be cured.
>> 5. People with good intentions - who may or (more likely) may not
>include some of the sponsors of this website - need to channel their
>efforts and resources into the legitimate and extremely worthy
>organizations out there which are doing truly worthwhile work to
>alleviate hunger now AND into the future in sustainable and
>appropriate ways. Some suggestions of groups I know well and can
>strongly recommend are:
>> - Inter Pares, 58 Arthur St, Ottawa, K1R 7B9 (613) 563-4801
>> - Oxfam Canada, #300, 294 Albert St, Ottawa, K1P 6E6 (613) 237-
>> - CUSO, 2255 Carling Ave, Ottawa, K2B 7Z5 (613) 829-7445
>> - as well as the various churches (Catholic, United, Anglican,
>> Mennonites, Quakers, etc.) with their international assistance
>> I'm sending this "Reply to All", and copying it to the
>addresses listed in the message that came to you. I trust that will
>be OK with you.
>> Sorry to rain on this particular parade, but I think it's very
>> important to do so before it goes any further.
>Peace and Environment Resource Centre http://www.perc.flora.org
> Nothing has been better proven than this maxim: that one succeeds
>in having too much only by causing others not to have enough.
> Francois Noel Babeuf (1769-1797)
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